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	<title>Elizabeth Rose Murray &#187; getting published</title>
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		<title>Irish PEN event: Writing for children and YA</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chaired by author Sarah Webb, and with a stellar panel consisting of; Puffin Ireland editor, Paddy O’Doherty, children’s book writer and illustrator Oisin McGann, literary agent Julia Churchill and debut novelist Anna Carey, this was an extremely informative, yet fun, evening for anyone interested in writing for children and young people. The audience consisted mainly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaired by author <a href="http://www.sarahwebb.info/" target="_blank">Sarah Webb</a>, and with a stellar panel consisting of; <a href="http://www.penguin.ie/static/penguinirelandsubmissionguidelines/index.html" target="_blank">Puffin Ireland editor, Paddy O’Doherty</a>, children’s book writer and illustrator <a href="http://www.oisinmcgann.com/" target="_blank">Oisin McGann</a>, literary agent <a href="http://www.greenhouseliterary.com/index.php/site/about" target="_blank">Julia Churchill</a> and debut novelist <a href="http://annacareybooks.com/" target="_blank">Anna Carey</a>,  this was an extremely informative, yet fun, evening for anyone  interested in writing for children and young people. The audience  consisted mainly of new writers, including students from Sarah’s  creative writing class at the Irish Writers Centre, but there were  plenty of established writers also in attendance including <a href="http://www.judicurtin.com/" target="_blank">Judi Curtin</a> and <a href="http://www.rflong.com/" target="_self">R.F. Long</a> (both hiding at the back).</p>
<p>Each panelist gave a five minute talk on their area of expertise  before the floor was handed over to the audience for questions.  Throughout the hour and a half long session, a vast amount of  information was passed to the audience, covering everything from reasons  behind writing for children, how to submit manuscripts, details on what  agents and publishers are looking for and how to approach signing a  book contract.</p>
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<p>When it comes to the writing process, Anna chose to write teen book because “<em>in  teenage years, emotions are so heightened, it lends itself to the  melodramatic and is a great source of comedy. I wanted to write a funny  book.</em>” Anna also discussed the importance of writers reading, both for enjoyment and for research. “<em>I  never stopped reading children’s and teen literature and I think any  good book for aged 11+ should be good for an adult too if it’s well  written</em>.” Oisin described the different expectations regarding word  count, language and editing when writing for different age groups. But  in all cases, he lets the story dictate what the reading age will be; “<em>the  story comes first and the reader age comes second. In books for younger  children, the illustrations help carry the story but by the time you  get to young adult fiction, story is king.</em>” In short, you need to have great ideas, perfect them with a passion and know your market before you start pitching them.</p>
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<p>This  outlook was mirrored by Paddy and Julia. Paddy gave some specific  examples of where the gaps are at Puffin Ireland, (such as another huge  ‘boy’ series, a comical series and a tear jerker) but then quickly added  &#8211; “<em>of course, that doesn’t mean that’s all we’re looking for. We’re  open to everything. We’re looking for a great voice and an original  story</em>.” Likewise, Julia doesn’t follow trends in publishing because “t<em>here’s such a small window &#8211; it has to be right thing at the right time</em>.” For Julia, there are six important pieces to the publication puzzle; “<em>concept, character, story setting, theme, voice and hook &#8211; all these things need to fuse into a great story.</em>”  She pointed out that manuscripts never arrive on her desk ready to go  to publishers but (thankfully!) she loves the slush pile and is always  open to the next big surprise. “<em>The story needs to be fresh and something I can work with so it can be pitched with clarity.</em>”  To help demonstrate this point, Julia read several (and masterful)  examples of books that she has pitched to publishers &#8211; and, as you would  expect, they all sounded amazing. But don’t be fooled into thinking  this is the easy part; writing a decent pitch is an art form and needs  plenty of time and edits.</p>
<p>So, how <em>do</em> you approach publishers and agents?</p>
<p>The  consensus is that it’s fine to approach publishers directly although  there are fewer open submissions being accepted. Plus, having an agent  has its advantages; for instance, an editor will read a manuscript more  quickly if passed on by an agent. It’s also fine to send submissions out  to several publishers/agents at once; Julia recommended ten at a time  but everyone on the panel agreed that precise records need to be kept so  that time isn’t wasted and submissions aren’t duplicated. Another  general consensus; “<em>you need skin like an armadillo</em>” (Oisin). Trying to secure an agent or a publisher is tough and takes lots of time and patience. However,“<em>persistence pays, harassment doesn’t,</em>” warns Oisin. “<em>Once you’ve got a submission out there, be patient.</em>”</p>
<p>For  those who have already sent out submissions and have been rejected,  here’s a bit of consoling information: Malorie Blackman had 82  rejections and Kate Miller had 350 rejections. It’s part of the business  so all is not lost if you receive a rejection (or several). But if you  do secure a publishing contract and don’t have an agent, the Irish  Writers Union is on hand to help; successful novelist Conor Kostick is  available at the union to look over proposed contracts and give advice.</p>
<p>Light-hearted  yet extremely useful, this was a fabulous evening and well worth  watching out for in the future. Sarah was a delightful Chair for the  event and in a fabulously giddy mood: please note, everyone, Sarah  definitely does not like books that contain rabbits in jackets (though  Anna would consider rabbits dressed as kittens and a love story set in  space)!</p>
<p>Please note; This is a cross post with <a href="http://writing.ie/guest-blogs/from-the-front-row/entry/guest-blogs/irish-pen-event-writing-for-children-and-young-people.html">Writing_ie</a>.</p>
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		<title>I’ve just pressed send…</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m excited. I just finished the final edits for my manuscript and sent it to my agent. The manuscript is complete at just over 71,000 words and the plot is much tighter and the fantasty element more developed. In fact, I&#8217;m very pleased with it. Fingers crossed that my agent thinks it’s good enough to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m excited. I just finished the final edits for my manuscript and sent it to my agent. The manuscript is complete at just over 71,000 words and the plot is much tighter and the fantasty element more developed. In fact, I&#8217;m very pleased with it. Fingers crossed that my agent thinks it’s good enough to go publishers. I believe it is pretty close; but I can’t wait to get the feedback. There’s a young reader going to take a look also so I expect the feedback to be brutal; let’s hope so! After all, you get one shot to impress publishers. Wish me luck!</p>
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		<title>Elizabeth Rose: a big mistake!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To read my great big ridiculous mistake, read my post &#8220;<a href="http://elizabethrosegettingpublished.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">another busy week and a little step back</a>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>Can i have f*** as my first word in a novel?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
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